From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Thu May 8 20:59:52 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id UAA03037 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id UAA07461; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id UAA09385 for aesthetics-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id UAA09378 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (root@relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.3.53]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with SMTP id UAA20060 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 20:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhunix1.its.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.6]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <587263(5)>; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:41:25 -1000 Received: from localhost by uhunix1.its.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <17358(2)>; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:47:46 -1000 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:47:44 -1000 From: Anthony J Palmer X-Sender: apalmer@uhunix1 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Aesthetics: Conference Respondents Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Anthony J Palmer Status: RO X-Status: We need to fill a couple of respondent cancellations for the Phil of Music Education International Symposium III being held at UCLA on May 28 - 31. Is there anyone on the west coast or in the far west who has a good music background (phil background is assumed) who would like to respond to a couple of papers? They are "Activating Self-Transformation Through Improvisation in Instrumental Music Education." and. "The roles of work and play in music education." Also, if anyone has the music background but also a solid grasp of modernism and post-modernism, please, let's talk. Send me notification of your interest and a brief description of your background. We can waive registration fees, etc. Access our WEB site at http://www2.hawaii.edu/music/ and you can see the full conference schedule and other information. thanks for your consideration. anthony j. palmer, univ of hawaii at manoa, chair of the symp __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Thu May 8 23:07:47 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id XAA04103 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 23:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id WAA02592; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id WAA12593 for aesthetics-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id WAA12585 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with SMTP id WAA21537 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id ab21137; 8 May 97 21:52 EDT Received: from [128.143.141.187] (bootp-141-187.bootp.Virginia.EDU [128.143.141.187]) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA429222 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:52:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:52:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199705090152.VAA429222@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> X-Sender: fem2x@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: aesthetics@indiana.edu From: Fred Maus Subject: Aesthetics: Feminist Theory and Music Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Fred Maus Status: RO X-Status: Conference announcement: FEMINIST THEORY AND MUSIC 4 A conference to be held on the grounds of the University of Virginia, with sessions beginning 1 PM Thursday, June 5 and continuing through noon, Sunday June 8, 1997. The conference will feature over 100 scholarly papers, performances and presentations exploring issues of gender, race, ethnicity, class and sexuality in musics from a wide range of cultural settings. For a complete listing of the program and abstracts, available in mid-May, visit our web page at http://www.virginia.edu/~music/ftm4.html. Plenary events will include "Remembering Ruth Crawford Seeger" presentations by Mike Seeger and Judith Tick. Thursday 4:30 PM A concert of electronic music by women composers including music by Insook Choi, Anne LeBaron, Annea Lockwood, Alicyn Warren, and Frances White. Martin Goldray, piano. Thursday 8:30 PM Open rehearsal and premiere performance of a choral work by Maura Bosch commissioned for this conference, conducted by Michele Edwards. Friday 12:45 - 1:45 PM "Tough Women" a lecture-recital by soprano Gwendolyn Lytle including songs by Margaret Bonds, Libby Larsen and Gwyneth Walker. Friday 4:30 PM Concert of recent music by women composers presented by the chamber ensemble Ekko! Friday 8:30 PM "Music as Community: Workshop in Central African Polyphony" led by Michelle Kisliuk. Saturday 12:45 - 1:45 PM Reception to celebrate two important publications: Judith Tick's biography Ruth Crawford Seeger: A Composer's Search for American Music and the first issue of Women and Music, a new scholarly journal. Saturday 4:30 PM. "Women Composers and Electronic Music" presentations by Insook Choi, Anne LeBaron, Annea Lockwood, Judith Shatin, and Frances White. Saturday 8:30 PM See below for registration and housing forms. 90% refund on registration and meals if you cancel by May 30, 50% if you cancel later. We have arranged for housing through the University. Registrants may stay in private rooms at Lambeth Apartments for $25/night, or may share a room for $20/night. Rooms are in suites of two or three bedrooms with shared bathroom and kitchen. Registrants may use the kitchens, but kitchen utensils are not provided. Spaces are available Wednesday through Sunday nights. Reserve one week in advance to guarantee space. Cancellations must be at least one week before arrival for full refund. To cancel call (804) 924-4479. The University requires a key deposit of $80 upon check-in, payable by cash, check, or VISA/Mastercard. We have also arranged for meals: all meals from Thursday dinner through Sunday lunch will be available in a University dining facility, except for Friday and Saturday lunch, available as box lunches at the Music building. Because of other events in Charlottesville, hotel and restaurant spaces are limited the weekend of the Conference, and we strongly advise registrants to use the housing and meals that we have arranged. Meals should be reserved by paying in advance: $54 to cover all the meals served in the dining hall, and $7 for each of the two box lunches. We recommend that all registrants purchase the $54 meal plan. A limited number of meals in the dining hall will be available on a cash, per-meal basis, but we cannot guarantee availability. Housing is a ten minute walk from the dining hall, and the conference events are a further five minute walk. We will provide local transportation for registrants with special needs. Transportation to Charlottesville is possible by air or train. We recommend working with a travel agent to explore different options. Charlottesville has a small airport; availability of flights varies and fares may be high. You may wish to consider travelling to Richmond (80 minutes away) or the Washington area airports (Dulles is closest, 2 hours away) and renting a car; the difference in fare may more than offset the rental cost. Amtrak has daily service to Charlottesville's station. =========================================== Registration form. You may pay by VISA, Mastercard or check (US$ only). Print out this form and return it by mail to: FTM4, Department of Music, University of Virginia, Charlottesville VA 22903. Or you may register by phone or email using credit card: (804) 924-3984 or . Registration fee: $90 (after May 22: $100). Those with annual income under $21,000 may choose to register at a lower rate of $60 ($70 after May 22). (1) Registration fee: ___ Breakfast and dinner and Sunday lunch are available from University dining services; box lunches will be available at the conference site. Meal plan (all meals from dinner Thursday through lunch Sunday, except for lunch on Friday and Saturday) $54 per person (2) Meal plan: _____ Check the days that you wish to have a box lunch: F __ Sa __ (3) _ Lunches @ $7: ____ for lunches: __meat __vegetarian __dietary restrictions:____________ Volunteers do most of the work for the Conference, and we rely on small grants, registration fees and donations to cover Conference expenses. We welcome donations, either for general operating expenses or to sponsor the reduced registration fee for lower-income participants ($30 reduction per person). (4) Donation: ____ Total payment (sum of 1 - 4 above):_____ __Check enclosed (US$ only) Charge my __VISA __Mastercard account Card number: _____________________ Expiration date: ____ Signature: _______________ Name: (as it will appear on badge): ______________________________ Institution or place of residence (optional):____________________ Address:__________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________ Phone:______________________________ Email: ___________________ __I will need special assistance with local transportation (attach explanation) __Please mail me information about driving to Charlottesville ================================================Housing request for Feminist Theory and Music. Print out this form and mail it to: University of Virginia, Conference Services, Page-Emmett, Station #1, Charlottesville VA 22904-0003. Or reserve with credit card by calling (804) 924-4479, or emailing complete information to , or fax the form with credit card information to Conference Services at (804) 924-1027. Name: _______________________________ Social security #_________________________ Address: __________________________________ City: ____________________________________ State: ________________ Zip: _________ Daytime phone: __________________________ Fax #: ______________________________ Arrival date: _______________________ Departure date: _____________________________ Accommodations: __ Lambeth single room @$25 __ Lambeth double room @$20/person __Male __Female __Couple __Smoker __Handicap/physical disability (attach explanation) If you have agreed to share a double with someone else please identify him/her: ____________ ___ Check enclosed. 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Amount: $__________________ Cardholder's name: _________________________________ Expiration date: _____________ Signature:_______________________________ __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sat May 10 00:33:22 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id AAA29053 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id AAA04587; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id AAA22377 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id AAA22370 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:29:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id AAA04742 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:29:45 -0500 (EST) From: RMehta1528@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA05136 for aesthetics@indiana.edu; Sat, 10 May 1997 01:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 01:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970510012828_1618848247@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Aesthetics: imagination Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: RMehta1528@aol.com Status: O X-Status: Hello: I am about to embark on a dissertation with the working title, "On Imagining You are Someone Else." I realize this can lead one astray into the many different areas of philosophy, and indeed, though I'd like to specialize in Aesthetics, the professor who helped me in selecting this topic is much more predisposed to epistemology. In any case, would any of you have some suggestions on how I could make this as aesthetically-related as I possibly can? The idea that we have to identify with protagonists and other characters when we watch films, plays, read novels, etc., is certainly one I am keeping at the forefront of my mind. But I'd be very much appreciative of ideas for other trenchant ways of approaching the topic aesthetically. Please email me not at this address, but the following: anuj@hawaii.edu Thanks so much. Anuj Shah __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sun May 11 08:53:46 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id IAA09187 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id IAA10552; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id IAA14773 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id IAA14766 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu (hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.202]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id IAA11347 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ghekko.iupui.edu (c4p14.dialin.iupui.edu [134.68.242.15]) by hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/1.8shakes) with SMTP id IAA22238 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:47:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970511073648.00688e98@hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu> X-Sender: dlopes@hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 07:42:10 -0500 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu From: "Paul Redding" (by way of dom lopes ) Subject: Aesthetics: SSLA website Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Paul Redding" (by way of dom lopes ) Status: O X-Status: The Sydney Society of Literature and Aesthetics now has as a web site at . Paul Redding School of Philosophy University of Sydney __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Mon May 12 09:18:33 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id JAA20112 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id JAA20687; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id IAA02855 for aesthetics-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id IAA02848 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu (hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.202]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id IAA20531 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ghekko.iupui.edu (c4p11.dialin.iupui.edu [134.68.242.12]) by hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/1.8shakes) with SMTP id IAA13991 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:58:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970512075305.0068d544@hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu> X-Sender: dlopes@hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 07:53:28 -0500 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu From: Mark.Grimshaw@ucsalf.ac.uk (by way of dom lopes ) Subject: Aesthetics: Popular Music & Technology Conference Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu id IAA02849 Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Mark.Grimshaw@ucsalf.ac.uk (by way of dom lopes ) Status: O X-Status: Popular Music and Technology Conference Salford University Music Department is holding a two-day conference on popular music and technology from April 3rd. - 4th. 1998. The use of modern electronic technology permeates the production, performance and consumption of popular music yet the study of its musical implications remains relatively small and diffuse. The aim of this conference is to bring together these disparate strands of research and stimulate discussion in this dynamic and exciting field. The conference will address the following themes: Composition - composition with/by technology popular music aesthetics and technology constraints of media and formats the producer as composer the 'grain' of technology composition by committee Performance and Communication - definitions of performance producer as performer the studio in concert and performance in the studio is it 'live'? technology as mediator: from conception to consumption popular music on the Internet Redefining Musicology - studying popular music and technology the language of technology analysis of technology in popular music using technology to analyse popular music aesthetics Social, Political and Economic Issues - Global responses to Western music technology Technology as empowering or enslaving implications of the Internet the cult of technology ownership race and generation Women, Popular Music and Technology - Technology and women composers The language of technology - a male domain? Thirty minute papers (plus 10 minutes for question) will be presented in panels following the above themes. Keynote speakers are likely to include: Andrew Goodwin (University of San Francisco, USA) and Steve Jones (University of Oklahoma, USA). Papers will be refereed (blind) - at present the referee panel includes: Jurgen Brauninger (University of Natal, South Africa); David Burnand (Royal College of Music, UK) and Jon Epstein (Wake Forest University, USA). Publication of the proceedings will be sought. It is anticipated that the conference fee will be approximately £45 and that hotel accommodation will cost around £35 per night. In addition to the presentations a number of special cultural events are planned including raves, performances and other more informal gatherings. Please send c.250 word abstracts by Friday 26th September 1997 to: Mark Grimshaw, Tim Warner or Sheila Whiteley, Music Department, Salford University, Adelphi Campus, Peru Street, Salford, Manchester M3 6EQ. UK. or Mark.Grimshaw@ucsalf.ac.uk tjwarner@ucsalf.ac.uk or Sheila.Whiteley@ucsalf.ac.uk For further information concerning the Music Department visit http://www.salford.ac.uk/music/mushome1.htm -- Mark Grimshaw (Head of Music Technology & Studio Production) Music Dept. Home Page: http://www.salford.ac.uk/music/mushome1.htm Dept: Music Phone: +44 161 2956135 Ext. 56135 Fax: +44 161 833 3672 Section: School of Popular Music Recording Salford University, Manchester, UK. __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Mon May 12 11:59:41 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id LAA23561 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id LAA28023; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:40:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id LAA12110 for aesthetics-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:38:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id LAA12103 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from planet.eon.net (tigger.eon.net [199.185.220.36]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with SMTP id LAA07472 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:38:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [198.80.52.158] (ip30.max07.ascend.planet.eon.net [198.80.52.158]) by planet.eon.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA18763 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:37:33 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:37:33 -0600 X-Sender: jmunro@mail.planet.eon.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: aesthetics@indiana.edu From: jmunro@planet.eon.net (joan munro) Subject: Aesthetics: Canadian Society for Aesthetics Conference Programme Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: jmunro@planet.eon.net (joan munro) Status: O X-Status: PROGRAMME Canadian Society for Aesthetics / Societe canadienne d'esthetique Fourteenth Annual Meeting / Quatorzieme rencontre annuelle Learned Societies Conference / Congres des Societes savantes Memorial University, St. John's, Newfoundland June 4 - June 6, 1997 Representant local / Local Arrangements Christopher Dennis, Memorial University The support of the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council is gratefully acknowledged La tenue du Congres de la Societe canadienne d'esthetique a ete rendue possible grace a des fonds provenantdu Conseil de recherches en sciences humaines du Canada WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4 / MERCREDI , LE 4 JUIN 8h30-9h00 Registration / Inscription 9h00 - 10h30 TABLE RONDE: 11h30 - 13h00 La Correspondance comme lieu de Communication Room S4038 Chair: Monique Langlois (histoire de l'art, UQAM) 10h45 - 13h00 ART: OLD, NEW AND ETERNAL Room S4038 Rock Art and the Aesthetic Appreciation of Natural Landscapes Thomas Heyd (Philosophy, Victoria) Teachings from the Oral Tradition and Cyberspace: Off the Page, On the Page and Into the Screen Duane Burton (International Education, Alberta) Voluminous Depth and the Rehabilitation of Sculpture as an Autonomous Art Gloria Ryder (Philosophy, Guelph) Hillerman's Landscapes : Landscape Description and Aesthetic Relevance Allen Carlson (Philosophy, Alberta) Chair: Victor Haines (English, Dawson) Lunch / Dejeuner CULTURE, POSTMODERNISM, DECONSTRUCTIONISM 14h00 - 16h00 Unsexing the Master Chef: The Relationship of Food and Room S4038 Gender in Ang Lee's "Eat, Drink, Man Woman" Kathleen Batstone (English, Manitoba) Negative Beauty: On the Religious Rhetoric of Literary Criticism Criticism Roger Seamon (English, UBC) A Deweyan Response to the Postmodern Dilemma Bella Rabinovitch (Marianapolis College) Kant's Aesthetics and the Linguistic Turn: Horne, Tooke and Saussure Leon Surette (English, Western) Chair: Gloria Ryder (Philosophy, York) 16h15 - 17h30 Aesthetics and the Cultural Literacy Debate Theme Session Room S4038 Chair: Douglas Arrell (Theatre and Drama, Winnipeg) 17h00 - 19h00 President's Reception / Reception du president (Main Dining Hall) THURSDAY, JUNE 5 / JEUDI le 5 JUIN MUSIC 9h00 - 9h50 Co-Authorship of Musical Texts and the Ritualization of Musical Room M2025 Performance Yaroslav Senyshyn (Education, Simon Fraser) Response: Paul Rice (Music, Memorial) Chair: Christopher Dennis (Memorial) 10h00 - 11h00 The Creative Act and Musical Communication Joint Session (ACS) (a panel of Canadian composers) Room M2025 Allan Gilliland (Music, Grant MacEwan), Gordon Nicholson (Music, Grant MacEwan), Clark Ross (Music, Memorial) Chair: Richard Cook (Dean: Performing, Visual and Communication Arts, Grant MacEwan) VISUAL ARTS 11h15 - 12h15 Aesthetics and Theology: Madonnas East and West Room S4038 Tom Roach (Art, St. Francis Xavier) Immanuel Kant: Teacher of the Visual Arts Mark Cheetham (Visual Arts, Western) Chair: Victor Kocay (Modern Languages, St. Francis Xavier) Lunch / Dejeuner EDUCATION AND THE ARTS 13h15- 15h15 Aesthetics, the Arts and Education at the Start of the 21st Room S4038 Century Rowland Marshall (Philosophy, St. Mary's) Teaching Aesthetics to Artists Douglas Arrell (Theatre and Drama, Winnipeg) Teaching Experimental Theater and some Questions about Theatrical Style James Hamilton (Philosophy, Kansas State) Growing Up Ironic: the Politics of Irony, Community and Education Will Buschert (Philosophy, Toronto) Chair: Roger Seamon (English, UBC) WORDS AND MEANINGS 15h30 - 17h00 Literature and Cognition: a Defence from Neuroscience Room S4038 Christine Watling (Philosophy, Alberta) Why Donald Davidson is Wrong About Metaphor Leon Surette (English, Western) Appreciating Art Appreciation Victor Haines (English, Dawson) Chair: Roy Martinez (Philosophy, Spelman) FRIDAY, JUNE 6 / VENDREDI le 6 JUIN CONTINENTAL PHILOSOPHERS 9h00 - 10h30 Aesthetics and Negativity Room S40438 Victor Kocay (Modern Languages, St. Francis Xavier) On Herr Phister as Scipio: Kierkegaard on the Art of Acting Roy Martinez (Philosophy, Spelman) The Masks of Imagination: Mirror, Lamp and Looking Glasses Stephen Boos (Interdisciplinary Studies, King's College) Chair: Bela Szabados (Philosophy, Regina) "EMINENT VICTORIANS " 10h40 - 11h40 Gerard Manley Hopkins and the Use of Poetry Joint Session (CHA) Kerry McSweeney (English, McGill) Room S4040 The Aesthetic Education of Desire: Wm. Morris, Utopianism and the Marxist Dilemma Michelle Weinroth (Ottawa) Chair: Sheryle Bergmann Drewe (Physical Education,Manitoba) 11h50 - 13h15 Annual General Meeting / Assemblee generale Room S40438 Lunch / Dejeuner 14h15- 15h30 BOOK REVIEW Room S4038 Creative Dance: Enriching Understanding by Sheryle Bergmann Drewe Participants: Francis Sparshott (Toronto), Joan Munro (Alberta) Sheryle Bergmann Drewe (Physical Education, Manitoba) Chair: Douglas Arrell (Theatre and Drama, Winnipeg) 17h30 - 19h30 SCE /CSA RECEPTION: EMMA BUTLER GALLERY, 111 GEORGE ST. __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Tue May 13 11:00:36 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id LAA10639 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id KAA22504; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id KAA14937 for aesthetics-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id KAA14926 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:54:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccmail.sunysb.edu (ccmail.sunysb.edu [129.49.1.103]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id KAA05132 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 10:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.192.51.29] (128.192.51.29) by ccmail.sunysb.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #18385) id <01IITJ52Q31CCA19ZG@ccmail.sunysb.edu>; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:52:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:52:57 +0000 From: "David Z. Saltz" Subject: Re: Aesthetics: imagination X-Sender: dsaltz@ccmail.sunysb.edu To: RMehta1528@aol.com, aesthetics@indiana.edu Message-id: <01IITJ531GQACA19ZG@ccmail.sunysb.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "David Z. Saltz" Status: O X-Status: Two important discussions of "imagining you are someone else" -- of which I suspect you're already aware -- are Bernard Williams' "Imagination and the Self" in _Problems of the Self_ (Cambridge UP, 1973) and Richard Wollheim's discussion of "central imagining" in _The Thread of Life_ (Harvard UP, 1984). Both argue that the project of literally imagining that one is identical to someone else is incoherent. Williams' argument links this issue to aesthetics by drawing an analogy between what one does in imagining to be someone else, and what an actor does in performing a role. His argument, I think, is very persuasive, but since Williams doesn't offer an account of what it means to "perform a role," he ultimately merely shifts the problem from imagination to acting. Kendall Walton, by the way, refutes Williams' and Wollheims' views (in particular Wollheims') in _Mimesis as Make Believe_. Since Walton's primary focus is on art, his work is particularly relevant to your concerns. ============================================================= David Z. Saltz Assistant Professor of Performance Theory & Interactive Media University of Georgia ============================================================= __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Tue May 13 08:38:31 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id IAA07121 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id IAA03637; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id IAA08856 for aesthetics-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id IAA08849 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id IAA24294 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from gamera.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.14CE7AA0@mailer.syr.edu>; Tue, 13 May 1997 9:28:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (ewschmid@localhost) by gamera.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA08939; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:28:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gamera.syr.edu: ewschmid owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:28:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erik W. Schmidt" X-Sender: ewschmid@gamera.syr.edu To: RMehta1528@aol.com cc: aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Aesthetics: Imagination Diss. In-Reply-To: <970510012828_1618848247@emout19.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Erik W. Schmidt" Status: O X-Status: There is of course a lively literature raising questions on the transcendental "I" in response to Kant's paralogism (i.e., the fact that one seems to be able to understand more radical counterfactual thoughts about oneself than about anything else). see for example: Zeno Vendler, "A note to the paralogisms" in G. Ryle (ed) Contemporary Aspects of Philosophy (Oriel Press: 1977) p.111-121 Anscombe "The First Person", in S. Gutttenplan (ed.) Mind and Language (Oxford: 1975) p45-65 J.L. Mackie, "The Transcendental 'I'" in his Persons and Values (Oxford: 1985) p.15-27 Zeno Vendler, "A note to the Paralogisms: in G. Ryle (ed) Contemporary Aspects of Philosophy (Oriel: 1977) p.111-121 Most of these articles involve the way in which we seem to be able to float the concept of oneself off all the fact about oneself, in a way that one cannot do the concept of anything else. This is not directly aesthetics related, but it seems that there may be some Personal Identity issues related to your topic. Erik Schmidt __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Tue May 13 11:43:55 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id LAA12028 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id LAA10525; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id LAA16976 for aesthetics-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id LAA16964 for ; 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The issue will be devoted to the discussion of theoretical issues arising in connection with popular culture, mass culture, mass media, their appreciation and criticism. The special issue will include papers by Noël Carroll, Ted Cohen, Theodore Gracyk, and Douglas Kellner. We invite submissions that consider the aesthetic assessment of all aspects of popular and mass culture, papers that treat how more general aesthetic categories might be utilized or revised to deal with popular phenomena, as well as inquiries into the issue whether popular culture, or aspects of it, call into question the notion that there are any experiences or values that can properly identified as distinctively aesthetic. Papers might focus on specific movements or genres in popular culture or more general theoretical issues, including the relevance of disciplines such as semiotics and cultural studies to aesthetics and vice versa. Suggested topics include: the aesthetics of popular media (e.g., film, television, video, and computer graphics); the analysis of cultural phenomena not normally categorized as art or as fine art or considered to be on the margins of these categories, (such as rock, jazz, rap, and country music; fashion, advertising, food, sports, travel, slang, stand-up comedy and other modes of popular expression, and domestic environments); and cross-cultural and non-Western popular activities, events, and affairs. Papers may be focused on current phenomena, but historical papers are also welcome. Submissions should be in triplicate and accompanied by brief abstracts. Deadline: 1 October 1997 Inquiries: Kathleen Higgins and Joel Rudinow (Guest Editors) Kathleen Higgins Department of Philosophy University of Texas-Austin Austin, Texas 78712-1180 Telephone: (512) 471-4857 FAX: (512) 471-4806 INTERNET: PLAC645@UTXVMS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU Joel Rudinow Department of Philosophy Sonoma State University Rohnert Park, California 94926-3609 Telephone: (707) 664-2277 FAX: (707) 664-2505 INTERNET: RUDINOW@SONOMA.EDU ____________________________________________________ Philip Alperson, JAAC, Dept. of Philosophy, University of Louisville Tel.: 502.852.0458 JAAC: 502.852.4768 FAX: 502.852.0459 http://www.louisville.edu/a-s/philosophy E-mail: paalpe01@homer.louisville.edu __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Thu May 15 12:22:13 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id MAA26692 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id LAA01376; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id LAA21882 for aesthetics-outgoing; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id LAA21875 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:13:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu (hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.202]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id LAA23386 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from iuk ([149.163.1.86]) by hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/1.8shakes) with SMTP id LAA27521 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:13:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970515111443.006d386c@hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu> X-Sender: dlopes@hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:15:13 -0500 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu From: dom lopes Subject: Aesthetics: PHILOsophical FIction List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dom lopes Status: O X-Status: PhiloFi-L is a list on behalf and request of afficionados of the E-mail PhiloFi series 'Logs of JD Flora' which had thousand of readers in the two years since its inception in July 1995. See http://www.newciv.org/jdf-logs/ Topics, however, are not limited to those brought up in the 'Logs of JD Flora' which were mainly dealing with Eastern and Western religions and philosophical concepts. The discussions mainly concentrate on the question of how philosophical concepts can be conveyed in the form of stories in general and how the storytelling of past writers, from Aesop and Buddha to Voltaire and Heinlein, has influenced today's cultures and perspectives. The list is open and unmoderated. It will be guided by Maria Loren, the list administratress of the 'Logs of JD Flora' (mloren@newciv.org). To subscribe to PhiloFi-L, send a message to majordomo@newciv.org with the BODY subscribe PhiloFi-L To subscribe to the e-mail series (one episode every other day) of the notorious and off-beat 'Logs of JD Flora', send a message to jdf-logs@newciv.org with the BODY: subscribe Owner: Maria Loren mloren@newciv.org __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Mon May 19 22:44:05 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id WAA03309 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 22:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id WAA05735; Mon, 19 May 1997 22:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id WAA18509 for aesthetics-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 22:35:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id WAA18502 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 22:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from cantva.canterbury.ac.nz (SYSTEM@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz [132.181.30.3]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id WAA21140 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 22:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from cantna.canterbury.ac.nz ("port 1682"@cantna.canterbury.ac.nz) by csc.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V5.1-7 #17207) with ESMTP id <01IJ3I9EI60O8WWKKG@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> for aesthetics@indiana.edu; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:34:43 +1200 Received: from CANTNA/SpoolDir by cantna.canterbury.ac.nz (Mercury 1.21); Tue, 20 May 1997 15:34:27 +1300 Received: from SpoolDir by CANTNA (Mercury 1.30); Tue, 20 May 1997 15:23:20 +1300 Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:26:11 +1300 From: Denis Dutton Subject: Aesthetics: Bad Writing Contest To: aesthetics@indiana.edu Message-id: <1FB378533BF@cantna.canterbury.ac.nz> Organization: University of Canterbury (NZ) X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Mac (v2.1.2) Priority: normal Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Denis Dutton Status: O X-Status: Feel free to forward this message to other lists or internet sites. --Bad Writing Contest Winners-- We are pleased to announce winners of the third Bad Writing Contest, sponsored by the scholarly journal Philosophy and Literature and its internet discussion group, PHIL-LIT. The Bad Writing Contest attempts to locate the ugliest, most stylistically awful passage found in a scholarly book or article published in the last few years. Ordinary journalism, fiction, etc. are not eligible, nor are parodies: entries must be non-ironic, from actual serious academic journals or books. In a field where unintended self-parody is so widespread, deliberate send-ups are hardly necessary. This year's winning passages include prose published by established, successful scholars, experts who have doubtless labored for years to write like this. Obscurity, after all, can be a notable achievement. The fame and influence of writers such as Hegel, Heidegger, or Derrida rests in part on their mysterious impenetrability. On the other hand, as a cynic once remarked, John Stuart Mill never attained Hegel's prestige because people found out what he meant. This is a mistake the authors of our our prize-winning passages seem determined to avoid. * The first prize goes to a sentence by the distinguished scholar Fredric Jameson, a man who on the evidence of his many admired books finds it difficult to write intelligibly and impossible to write well. Whether this is because of the deep complexity of Professor Jameson's ideas or their patent absurdity is something readers must decide for themselves. Here, spotted for us by Dave Roden of Central Queensland University in Australia, is the very first sentence of Professor Jameson's book, Signatures of the Visible (Routledge, 1990, p. 1): "The visual is _essentially_ pornographic, which is to say that it has its end in rapt, mindless fascination; thinking about its attributes becomes an adjunct to that, if it is unwilling to betray its object; while the most austere films necessarily draw their energy from the attempt to repress their own excess (rather than from the more thankless effort to discipline the viewer)." The appreciative Mr. Roden says it is "good of Jameson to let readers know so soon what they're up against." We cannot see what the second "that" in the sentence refers to. And imagine if that uncertain "it" were willing to betray its object? The reader may be baffled, but then any author who thinks visual experience is essentially pornographic suffers confusions no lessons in English composition are going to fix. * If reading Fredric Jameson is like swimming through cold porridge, there are writers who strive for incoherence of a more bombastic kind. Here is our next winner, which was found for us by Professor Cynthia Freeland of the University of Houston. The writer is Professor Rob Wilson: "If such a sublime cyborg would insinuate the future as post-Fordist subject, his palpably masochistic locations as ecstatic agent of the sublime superstate need to be decoded as the 'now-all-but-unreadable DNA' of a fast deindustrializing Detroit, just as his Robocop-like strategy of carceral negotiation and street control remains the tirelessly American one of inflicting regeneration through violence upon the racially heteroglossic wilds and others of the inner city." This colorful gem appears in a collection called The Administration of Aesthetics: Censorship, Political Criticism, and the Public Sphere, edited by Richard Burt "for the Social Text Collective" (University of Minnesota Press, 1994). Social Text is the cultural studies journal made famous by publishing physicist Alan Sokal's jargon-ridden parody of postmodernist writing. If this essay is Social Text's idea of scholarship, little wonder it fell for Sokal's hoax. (And precisely what are "racially heteroglossic wilds and others"?) Dr. Wilson is an English professor, of course. * That incomprehensibility need not be long-winded is proven by our third-place winner, sent in by Richard Collier, who teaches at Mt. Royal College in Canada. It's a sentence from Making Monstrous: Frankenstein, Criticism, Theory, by Fred Botting (Manchester University Press, 1991): "The lure of imaginary totality is momentarily frozen before the dialectic of desire hastens on within symbolic chains." * Still, prolixity is often a feature of bad writing, as demonstrated by our next winner, a passage submitted by Mindy Michels, a graduate anthropology student at the American University in Washington, D.C. It's written by Stephen Tyler, and appears in Writing Culture, edited (it says) by James Clifford and George E. Marcus (University of California Press, 1986). Of what he calls "post-modern ethnography," Professor Tyler says: "It thus relativizes discourse not just to form--that familiar perversion of the modernist; nor to authorial intention--that conceit of the romantics; nor to a foundational world beyond discourse--that desperate grasping for a separate reality of the mystic and scientist alike; nor even to history and ideology--those refuges of the hermeneuticist; nor even less to language--that hypostasized abstraction of the linguist; nor, ultimately, even to discourse--that Nietzschean playground of world-lost signifiers of the structuralist and grammatologist, but to all or none of these, for it is anarchic, though not for the sake of anarchy but because it refuses to become a fetishized object among objects--to be dismantled, compared, classified, and neutered in that parody of scientific scrutiny known as criticism." * A bemused Dr. Tim van Gelder of the University of Melbourne sent us the following sentence: "Since thought is seen to be 'rhizomatic' rather than 'arboreal,' the movement of differentiation and becoming is already imbued with its own positive trajectory." It's from The Continental Philosophy Reader, edited by Richard Kearney and Mara Rainwater (Routledge, 1996), part of an editors' introduction intended to help students understand a chapter. Dr. van Gelder says, "No undergraduate student I've given this introduction to has been able to make the slightest sense of it. Neither has any faculty member." * An assistant professor of English at a U.S. university (she prefers to remain anonymous) entered this choice morsel from The Cultures of United States Imperialism, by Donald Pease (Duke University Press, 1993): "When interpreted from within the ideal space of the myth-symbol school, Americanist masterworks legitimized hegemonic understanding of American history expressively totalized in the metanarrative that had been reconstructed out of (or more accurately read into) these masterworks." While the entrant says she enjoys the Bad Writing Contest, she's fearful her career prospects would suffer were she to be identified as hostile to the turn by English departments toward movies and soap operas. We quite understand: these days the worst writers in universities are English professors who ignore "the canon" in order to apply tepid, vaguely Marxist gobbledygook to popular culture. Young academics who'd like a career had best go along. * But it's not just the English department where jargon and incoherence are increasingly the fashion. Susan Katz Karp, a graduate student at Queens College in New York City, found this choice nugget showing that forward-thinking art historians are doing their desperate best to import postmodern style into their discipline. It's from an article by Professor Anna C. Chave, writing in Art Bulletin (December 1994): "To this end, I must underline the phallicism endemic to the dialectics of penetration routinely deployed in descriptions of pictorial space and the operations of spectatorship." The next round of the Bad Writing Contest, results to be announced in 1998, is now open with a deadline of December 31, 1997. There is an endless ocean of pretentious, turgid academic prose being added to daily, and we'll continue to celebrate it. ********************************** Dr. Denis Dutton Senior Lecturer in the Philosophy of Art Editor, Philosophy and Literature University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand Phones: 64-3-366-7001, ext. 8154 d.dutton@fina.canterbury.ac.nz __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Tue May 20 14:27:15 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id OAA04308 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 14:27:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id OAA21846; Tue, 20 May 1997 14:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id OAA06483 for aesthetics-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 14:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id OAA06472 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 14:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.52.6]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with SMTP id OAA32089 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 14:12:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.17.220.5 (pm1-14.wmbg.widomaker.com) by corn.cso.niu.edu with SMTP id AA08489 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 20 May 1997 14:11:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3381F783.5796@niu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:12:03 -0400 From: James Dye <"James Dye"@corn.cso.niu.edu> Organization: Northern Illinois University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu Cc: dpcole@facstaff.wm.edu Subject: Aesthetics: Call for Papers--SSPP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: James Dye <"James Dye"@corn.cso.niu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Southern Society for Philosophy and Psychology http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~sspp Call for Papers in Philosophy The Southern Society for Philosophy and Psychology announces a call for papers for its ninetieth annual meetings to take place April 9-11, 1998 in New Orleans, Louisiana. Founded in 1904, SSPP meetings feature concurrent programs in philosophy and psychology as well as plenary sessions jointly sponsored by the two program committees. By tradition, the two programs are not limited to the interface between philosophy and psychology, but are open to all areas of research pertinent to each discipline. The deadline for submissions in philosophy October 15, 1996 (postmarked). All papers submitted and presented should employ gender-inclusive language. The Philosophy Program Committee welcomes submissions of papers in any area of philosophy. Papers should not exceed 10 double-spaced pages using 10- to 12-point font and should include a short abstract of no more than 200 words. Self-references should be deleted to permit blind-reviewing; authors should indicate their identity only on the cover sheet accompanying their manuscript. Only submissions from members or applicants for membership will be considered. Send requests for application forms, queries and triplicate copies of submissions with an SSPP submission form to the Philosophy Program Committee Chair: Dr. Valerie Hardcastle, Program Chair, Philosophy Department of Philosophy Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 24061 E-mail: valerie@vt.edu Certain papers may be selected for commentary, depending on overall programmatic considerations. People who wish to comment on a paper or chair a session may volunteer by contacting Dr. Hardcastle directly. Each year the Southern Society for Philosophy and Psychology awards the Richard M. Griffith Memorial Award for papers of greatest excellence, one in philosophy and one in psychology, presented by a recent Ph.D. recipient or candidate at the annual meeting. Winners are announced at the business meeting which concludes the conference. Those who have received their Ph.D. during the past five years or who are Ph.D. candidates are eligible to compete for the award. The award carries a $200 cash prize and an engraved paperweight. Those wishing to have their papers considered for the Griffith Award should send four additional copies of their submissions (seven copies in all) to the Program Chair. The Society also awards travel grants of $100 to at least two graduate students, one in philosophy, one in psychology, whose work is accepted for the annual program. Additional grants may be available pending donations from the membership. Students can apply for these grants simply by indicating their eligibility on their SSPP submission form. To be eligible for a travel grant, the applicant must be a graduate student in a doctoral program in philosophy or psychology whose submission conforms to the SSPP submission requirements relevant to their discipline. Applicants may be either the sole or joint authors of the paper or abstract they submit. The travel grants will be awarded on a competitive basis by the Program Committee of each discipline, whose chair will notify recipients at the same time they are sent their acceptance notices for the program. For more information about membership, the annual Griffith Award, or about the 1995 conference, contact the Secretary of the Society, Dr. David Washburn, Department of Psychology, Georgia State University, Atlanta, GA 30303. Tel. 404-244-5845, e-mail dwashburn@gsu.edu or visit the sspp home page at http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~sspp. -- __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Wed May 21 12:45:28 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id MAA21993 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id MAA29352 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:45:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id KAA04408 for aesthetics-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:54:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id KAA04401 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from radcliffe.harvard.edu (radcliffe.harvard.edu [128.103.230.10]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with SMTP id KAA18628 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by radcliffe.harvard.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA04292; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:54:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:54:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Patricia Herzog X-Sender: herzog@radcliffe To: aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Aesthetics: syllabus suggestions for the beautiful and the good Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Patricia Herzog Status: O X-Status: I am currently devising a course syllabus for a freshman seminar on the beautiful and the good. I would greatly appreciate hearing from anyone with recommendations for texts, classical or contemporary. Thanks in advance, Patricia Herzog Brandeis University __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Thu May 22 08:51:39 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id IAA03845 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 08:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id IAA22430 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 08:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id HAA03763 for aesthetics-outgoing; Thu, 22 May 1997 07:35:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id HAA03756 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 07:34:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk (pp@goggins.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.13]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id HAA26461 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 07:34:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host ss1.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 May 1997 11:43:08 +0100 Received: from abpc-ab.bath.ac.uk by ss1.bath.ac.uk id aa00346; 22 May 97 11:43 BST Received: by abpc-ab.bath.ac.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BC66A4.E3A45A40@abpc-ab.bath.ac.uk>; Thu, 22 May 1997 11:40:03 +-100 Message-ID: <01BC66A4.E3A45A40@abpc-ab.bath.ac.uk> From: Andrew Ballantyne To: "aesthetics@indiana.edu" Subject: RE: Aesthetics: syllabus suggestions for the beautiful and the good Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:40:02 +-100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu id HAA03757 Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Andrew Ballantyne Status: O X-Status: Patricia: There is an attempt to relate beauty to political freedom and Epicurean morals in late Georgian England in my recently published book "Architecture, landscape and liberty: Richard Payne Knight and the picturesque" (Cambridge University Press) ISBN 0 521 46200 2 Andrew Ballantyne ---------- From: Patricia Herzog[SMTP:herzog@radcliffe.harvard.edu] Sent: 21 May 1997 12:54 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Aesthetics: syllabus suggestions for the beautiful and the good I am currently devising a course syllabus for a freshman seminar on the beautiful and the good. I would greatly appreciate hearing from anyone with recommendations for texts, classical or contemporary. Thanks in advance, Patricia Herzog Brandeis University __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asa __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Thu May 22 11:24:51 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id LAA07233 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 11:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id LAA17151 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 11:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id JAA07079 for aesthetics-outgoing; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id JAA07063 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu (hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.202]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id JAA17407 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ghekko.iupui.edu (ip220-141.cc.interlog.com [207.34.220.141]) by hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/1.8shakes) with SMTP id JAA10697 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:26:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970522081457.0069a3dc@hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu> X-Sender: dlopes@hamlet.ucs.indiana.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 08:20:56 -0500 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu From: Bruce Edmonds (by way of dom lopes ) Subject: Aesthetics: New ejournal on Memetic Models Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Bruce Edmonds (by way of dom lopes ) Status: O X-Status: Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission (JOM-EMIT) JOM-EMIT is a new scientific journal published exclusively on the Web, at URL: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit The journal has no subscription fee. JOM-EMIT is the first peer-reviewed journal devoted to the development of the memetic perspective. This perspective looks at culture, communication and information transmission as evolutionary phenomena, governed by the mechanisms of variation, replication and selection. The concept of "meme" was proposed by Richard Dawkins as 'a unit of cultural transmission, or a unit of imitation'. The vagueness of this initial description may explain the present diversity of views on what a meme really is, and how the memetic model can be used. JOM-EMIT wishes to clarify these issues, by stimulating a constructive dialogue between the active researchers in the field. More specifically JOM-EMIT seeks to discuss the following topics related to memetics: - Comparisons of different mechanisms and models of evolutionary processes, possibly in distinct fields of inquiry. - Philosophical or theoretical issues concerning epistemology and evolution - Boundaries of the evolutionary approach - Empirical research on memetic processes - Models of meme generation and meme spread - Fundamental approaches aimed at structuring the field of memetics as a science Editorial Board: Gary Boyd, Bruce Edmonds (also publisher), Liane Gabora, Francis Heylighen, Mark Mills, Hans-Cees Speel (managing editor), and Mario Vaneechoutte. Advisory Board: Gary Cziko, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, David Hull, and Aaron Lynch. The JOM-EMIT site contains two mailing lists: an announcement list for the distribution of abstracts of new papers to all subscribers, and a discussion list for open debate on the submitted papers, and other memetics related issues. You can subscribe to these lists via the Journal's home page. CONTENTS The first issue (May-September) of JOM-EMIT is now online. It contains four papers and one book review: "The Six Essentials? Minimal Requirements for the Darwinian Bootstrapping of Quality" by William H. Calvin "Cultural R/K Selection" by Agner Fog "The Origin and Evolution of Culture and Creativity" by Liane Gabora "Macromemetics and the Re-unification of Philosophy" by Derek Gatherer Book review: "Evolutionary Paradigms in the Social Sciences. Special Issue, International Studies Quarterly 40, (September, 1996)" by Francis A. Beer. New papers will appear continuously when they are accepted for publication. CALL FOR PAPERS We invite interested authors to submit papers for the journal, along with information on the author, his/her address and affiliations, at the journal's email address: jom-emit@sepa.tudelft.nl All submitted papers will be anonymously reviewed. They will only be accepted for publication if approved by at least two referees. Controversial papers of high quality can be followed by commentaries by request of the author after they are published (similar to the commentary structure the "Brain and Behavioral Sciences" uses, although JOM-EMIT uses commentary only as an option after a paper is already published). This means that a number of peers write a short comment, to which the author can reply in a concluding short paper. We also wish to invite letters which criticize published papers, and book reviews relevant to the journal's aims. Further information for authors can be found at the web address: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit/ifa.html --------------------------------------------------- Bruce Edmonds, Centre for Policy Modelling, Manchester Metropolitan University, Aytoun Bldg., Aytoun St., Manchester, M1 3GH. UK. Tel: +44 161 247 6479 Fax: +44 161 247 6802 http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/~bruce __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Fri May 23 21:46:53 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id VAA15469 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id VAA30209 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id UAA17249 for aesthetics-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id UAA17240 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from gridsat.thegrid.net (root@gridsat.thegrid.net [206.190.65.4]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id UAA17111 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (sc171-165.thegrid.net [207.114.171.165]) by gridsat.thegrid.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26371; Fri, 23 May 1997 18:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1FB378533BF@cantna.canterbury.ac.nz> References: Conversation <1FB378533BF@cantna.canterbury.ac.nz> with last message <1FB378533BF@cantna.canterbury.ac.nz> Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: "Denis Dutton" , aesthetics@indiana.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Marcus Verhaegh" Subject: Re: Aesthetics: Bad Writing Contest Date: Fri, 23 May 97 17:33:12 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu id UAA17241 Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Marcus Verhaegh" Status: O X-Status: The following sentence is singled-out in the "Bad Writing Contest," as an example of (non-prolix) incomprehensibility, as well as of generaly stylisitc awfulness: "The lure of imaginary totality is momentarily frozen before the dialectic of desire hastens on within symbolic chains." {from _Making Monstrous: Frankenstein, Criticism, Theory_, by Fred Botting (Manchester University Press, 1991)} I find this an odd-sentence to focus on. It reads well enough, even if the phrase "dialectic of desire" does push the sentence over the top. But this over-the-topness wasn't quite laugh-out-loud funny; it wasn't even close. It just calls for a minor adjustment. (In fact, I would have to say that if this is the stylistically-worst which is out there, then the contemporary English-language academic community can be proud.) As to the sentence's incomprehensibility: Yes, it (like, I would venture, a majority of sentences in philosophy, literary theory, etc.) is rather hard to understand when ripped out of context. That said, I can imagine this sentence, or at least one very much like it, working just fine in context. For instance, I can imagine the sentence as refering to a desire to grasp phenomenal nature in its totality, and thereby acheive a vision of what Hegel calls the Absolute. I can further imagine the sentence as referring to an experience of the impossibility of such a totalizing comprehension of nature, an experience which Kant describes as an experience of the sublime. (See Section 29 of the _Critique of Judgment_). Finally, I can imagine the sentence, with its mention of "symbolic chains," as referring to a writerly response to a desire, or longing, for an absent time, person, etc., where one attempts to "re-live" or "re-present" the germane period of the past through literarture--even while one is aware of the impossibilities bound up with such "re-presentation." (See Lyotard, "Answering the Question: What is Postmodernism?," where he relates modern art to an "aesthetic of sublimity": modern art presents the fact there is exists the un-presentable, but has, unlike "pos! ! tmodern" art, a "nostalgia" for this un-presentable.) I relate such doomed preserving attempts of writers to the problems of totalizing thought, in that the desire to "re-live" the past through writing involves, it seems to me, a desire to capture the past in its totality, rather than seeing it a having, through literature, only a kind of ghostly demi-life. Now, the author of this sentence was probably actually writing about something else entirely. I have no idea. (Moreover, I wonder what Frankenstein could possibly have to do with "imaginary totality," etc..) But this is not terribly relevant, since what I am claiming, and trying to make evident, is that the sentence in question might very easily be quite comphrensible in context, even if it is perhaps inscribed within a fairly involved body of theory. Is such "involvement" really such a reprehensible quality for academic writing? The majority of selections in the "Bad Writing Contest," I found very good, and very amusing, examples of, well, bad writing. There were, however, at least one or two more I was a little skeptical about, in that I doubted they would really be all that opaque in context. Moreover, I found the "lessons" we are apparently supposed to learn from these example questionable, both in their content and the way such "bad writing" allegedly demonstrates them. For instance, while I found the claim that "as a cynic once remarked, John Stuart Mill never attained Hegel's prestige because people found out what he meant," hilarious, I also found it flat-out wrong. (Oddly, this made it is less hilarious.) J.S. Mill, while no slouch, just does not provide an important a philosophical view as does Hegel. Moreover, the reasoning to arrive at this false conclusion is also wrong. Hegel's "impenetrability" may have helped helped him to some degree, in the sense that his writing, like Derrida's, has a kind of productive ambiguity which the more postivistic-minded Mill's does not possess. But, in recent years at least, it is precisely the difficulty of Hegel's writing that is keeping it from getting the degree of (continued) attention it deserves from English-language philosophers. We seem instead still trasfixed by the (in philosophy journals) ubiquitous gobbledygook of logic-fetishists. (Things like: "Reverse-order Analyses of X-n Belief! ! States in Forward Quarter Retorgrade Cognition: How Music Refers to Emotion," come to mind unbidden.) Likewise I found the following selection+commentary a little suspect: "* An assistant professor of English at a U.S. university (she prefers to remain anonymous) entered this choice morsel from The Cultures of United States Imperialism, by Donald Pease (Duke University Press, 1993): 'When interpreted from within the ideal space of the myth-symbol school, Americanist masterworks legitimized hegemonic understanding of American history expressively totalized in the metanarrative that had been reconstructed out of (or more accurately read into) these masterworks.' While the entrant says she enjoys the Bad Writing Contest, she's fearful her career prospects would suffer were she to be identified as hostile to the turn by English departments toward movies and soap operas. We quite understand: these days the worst writers in universities are English professors who ignore 'the canon' in order to apply tepid, vaguely Marxist gobbledygook to popular culture. Young academics who'd like a career had best go along." Thanks, I will. Though of course I doubt that I would term all--or anything close to all--of what the author refers to as "gobbledygook" the same. And I am almost totally sure that my vision of truly-foul "gobbledygook" varies from his to a fair extent. Putting aside the question of "gobbledygook," I don't feel particularly sympathetic to the implication in this commentary that "young academics" are being forced to focus on pop-culture beyond the degree the subject is due. I don't really known very much about the pressures of English departments, but I am convinced pop-culture could use much more academic analysis and interpretation, and that Critical theory and other Contintental(-derived) currents of thought provide crucial tools for doing so. Moreover, it seems to me that in most--perhaps even almost all--philosophy departments, there is very little interest in aesthetic issues relating to pop culture. This is being rectified, but there is still a ways to go. --Marcus Verhaegh Student, Free University Amsterdam __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sat May 24 00:56:22 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id AAA15999 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 00:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id AAA22032 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 00:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id XAA20057 for aesthetics-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 23:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id XAA20050 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 23:56:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from gridsat.thegrid.net (root@gridsat.thegrid.net [206.190.65.4]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id XAA30751 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 23:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (sc81-142.thegrid.net [206.190.81.142]) by gridsat.thegrid.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21679 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 21:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Marcus Verhaegh" Subject: Aesthetics: Aesthetics; Bad Writing Contest; repost Date: Fri, 23 May 97 20:53:30 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu id XAA20051 Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Marcus Verhaegh" Status: O X-Status: This is a repost. I received a complaint about a lack of carriage returns occuring in the original posting. I cannot detect the problem, but I will stick some CR's in manually, if this will avoid _really_ bad writing. ****** The following sentence is singled-out in the "Bad Writing Contest," as an example of (non-prolix) incomprehensibility, as well as of generaly stylisitc awfulness: "The lure of imaginary totality is momentarily frozen before the dialectic of desire hastens on within symbolic chains." {from _Making Monstrous: Frankenstein, Criticism, Theory_, by Fred Botting (Manchester University Press, 1991)} I find this an odd-sentence to focus on. It reads well enough, even if the phrase "dialectic of desire" does push the sentence over the top. But this over-the-topness wasn't quite laugh-out-loud funny; it wasn't even close. It just calls for a minor adjustment. (In fact, I would have to say that if this is the stylistically-worst which is out there, then the contemporary English-language academic community can be proud.) As to the sentence's incomprehensibility: Yes, it (like, I would venture, a majority of sentences in philosophy, literary theory, etc.) is rather hard to understand when ripped out of context. That said, I can imagine this sentence, or at least one very much like it, working just fine in context. For instance, I can imagine the sentence as refering to a desire to grasp phenomenal nature in its totality, and thereby acheive a vision of what Hegel calls the Absolute. I can further imagine the sentence as referring to an experience of the impossibility of such a totalizing comprehension of nature, an experience which Kant describes as an experience of the sublime. (See Section 29 of the _Critique of Judgment_). Finally, I can imagine the sentence, with its mention of "symbolic chains," as referring to a writerly response to a desire, or longing, for an absent time, person, etc., where one attempts to "re-live" or "re-present" the germane period of the past through literarture--even while one is aware of the impossibilities bound up with such "re-presentation." (See Lyotard, "Answering the Question: What is Postmodernism?," where he relates modern art to an "aesthetic of sublimity": modern art presents the fact there is exists the un-presentable, but has, unlike "postmodern" art, a "nostalgia" for this un-presentable.) I relate such doomed preserving attempts of writers to the problems of totalizing thought, in that the desire to "re-live" the past through writing involves, it seems to me, a desire to capture the past in its totality, rather than seeing it a having, through literature, only a kind of ghostly demi-life. Now, the author of this sentence was probably actually writing about something else entirely. I have no idea. (Moreover, I wonder what Frankenstein could possibly have to do with "imaginary totality," etc..) But this is not terribly relevant, since what I am claiming, and trying to make evident, is that the sentence in question might very easily be quite comphrensible in context, even if it is perhaps inscribed within a fairly involved body of theory. Is such "involvement" really such a reprehensible quality for academic writing? The majority of selections in the "Bad Writing Contest," I found very good, and very amusing, examples of, well, bad writing. There were, however, at least one or two more I was a little skeptical about, in that I doubted they would really be all that opaque in context. Moreover, I found the "lessons" we are apparently supposed to learn from these example questionable, both in their content and the way such "bad writing" allegedly demonstrates them. For instance, while I found the claim that "as a cynic once remarked, John Stuart Mill never attained Hegel's prestige because people found out what he meant," hilarious, I also found it flat-out wrong. (Oddly, this made it is less hilarious.) J.S. Mill, while no slouch, just does not provide an important a philosophical view as does Hegel. Moreover, the reasoning to arrive at this false conclusion is also wrong. Hegel's "impenetrability" may have helped helped him to some degree, in the sense that his writing, like Derrida's, has a kind of productive ambiguity which the more postivistic-minded Mill's does not possess. But, in recent years at least, it is precisely the difficulty of Hegel's writing that is keeping it from getting the degree of (continued) attention it deserves from English-language philosophers. We seem instead still trasfixed by the (in philosophy journals) ubiquitous gobbledygook of logic-fetishists. (Things like: "Reverse-order Analyses of X-n Belief States in Forward Quarter Retorgrade Cognition: How Music Refers to Emotion," come to mind unbidden.) Likewise I found the following selection+commentary a little suspect: "* An assistant professor of English at a U.S. university (she prefers to remain anonymous) entered this choice morsel from The Cultures of United States Imperialism, by Donald Pease (Duke University Press, 1993): 'When interpreted from within the ideal space of the myth-symbol school, Americanist masterworks legitimized hegemonic understanding of American history expressively totalized in the metanarrative that had been reconstructed out of (or more accurately read into) these masterworks.' While the entrant says she enjoys the Bad Writing Contest, she's fearful her career prospects would suffer were she to be identified as hostile to the turn by English departments toward movies and soap operas. We quite understand: these days the worst writers in universities are English professors who ignore 'the canon' in order to apply tepid, vaguely Marxist gobbledygook to popular culture. Young academics who'd like a career had best go along." Thanks, I will. Though of course I doubt that I would term all--or anything close to all--of what the author refers to as "gobbledygook" the same. And I am almost totally sure that my vision of truly-foul "gobbledygook" varies from his to a fair extent. Putting aside the question of "gobbledygook," I don't feel particularly sympathetic to the implication in this commentary that "young academics" are being forced to focus on pop-culture beyond the degree the subject is due. I don't really known very much about the pressures of English departments, but I am convinced pop-culture could use much more academic analysis and interpretation, and that Critical theory and other Contintental(-derived) currents of thought provide crucial tools for doing so. Moreover, it seems to me that in most--perhaps even almost all--philosophy departments, there is very little interest in aesthetic issues relating to pop culture. This is being rectified, but there is still a ways to go. --Marcus Verhaegh Student, Free University Amsterdam __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sat May 24 16:05:16 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id QAA21093 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id QAA16221 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id EAA21673 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sat, 24 May 1997 04:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id EAA21666 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 04:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.tau.ac.il (post.tau.ac.il [132.66.16.11]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id EAA17262 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 04:47:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccsg.tau.ac.il (griffin@ccsg.tau.ac.il [132.66.16.2]) by post.tau.ac.il (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA15129; Sat, 24 May 1997 12:39:30 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (griffin@localhost) by ccsg.tau.ac.il (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA10274; Sat, 24 May 1997 05:20:06 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: ccsg.tau.ac.il: griffin owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 05:20:04 +0300 (IDT) From: "Robert J. Griffin" To: Marcus Verhaegh cc: Denis Dutton , aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Re: Aesthetics: Bad Writing Contest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Robert J. Griffin" Status: O X-Status: I can agree with Marcus Verhaegh that contexts provide information that allow us to understand sentences which may appear incomprehensible when detached. But whether the Botting sentence can be understood in such a way still leaves aside the stylistic question. Botting's sentence mixes metaphors in a wild way: a "lure" is "frozen" before a dialectic, but then hastens on "within" chains. If you question, who or what is the subject of this activity, and where that subject is located, or indeed what exactly is said to be occurring, you may find some difficulty in sorting it out. I should add that I am not someone who rails against "jargon." I think that disciplines legitimately construct specialized vocabularies, and that the price of admission is learning the language. A writer pre-selects and presupposes an audience when using a highly specialized vocabulary. Bad writing, as I understand it however, is basically a lack of clarity and economy in expression, regardless of which vocabulary one is using. The Jameson quotation that also won a prize is a good example. But there the confusion occurs on the level of syntax. Robert Griffin Tel Aviv University __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sat May 24 23:37:24 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id XAA23411 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 23:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id XAA22858 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 23:37:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id WAA29478 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sat, 24 May 1997 22:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id WAA29469 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 22:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from gridsat.thegrid.net (root@gridsat.thegrid.net [206.190.65.4]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id WAA30921 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 22:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (sc81-229.thegrid.net [206.190.81.229]) by gridsat.thegrid.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28087; Sat, 24 May 1997 13:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: "Robert J. Griffin" Cc: aesthetics@indiana.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Marcus Verhaegh" Subject: Re: Aesthetics: Bad Writing Contest Date: Sat, 24 May 97 11:58:37 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu id WAA29470 Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Marcus Verhaegh" Status: O X-Status: The sentence in question is: "The lure of imaginary totality is momentarily frozen before the dialectic of desire hastens on within symbolic chains." Robert Griffin writes of it: "Botting's sentence mixes metaphors in a wild way: a "lure" is "frozen" before a dialectic, but then hastens on "within" chains." I want it to be clear that I don't thing Botting's sentence is any kind of stylistic masterpiece. But at the same time I just don't think it is that bad. It doesn't mix metaphors in the way that Robert Griffith describes: the "lure" is "frozen," but it is the "_dialectic_" which "hastens." The image of a "lure" being "frozen" is a good one: I can imagine a kind of crystalizing moment where what you want, or the nature of your desire for it, becomes apparent. Likewise, there is nothing wrong with the idea/image of "hasten[ing] on within symbolic chains": you can be going somewhere fast but still be unfree. --Marcus Verhaegh Student, Free University Amsterdam __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sat May 24 23:30:22 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id XAA23323 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 23:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id XAA27502 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 23:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id WAA29358 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sat, 24 May 1997 22:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id WAA29346 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 22:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gridsat.thegrid.net (root@gridsat.thegrid.net [206.190.65.4]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id WAA31329 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 22:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (sc171-170.thegrid.net [207.114.171.170]) by gridsat.thegrid.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA15717 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Marcus Verhaegh" Subject: Re: Aesthetics: Bad Writing Contest Date: Sat, 24 May 97 15:33:05 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu id WAA29347 Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Marcus Verhaegh" Status: RO X-Status: The sentence in question is: "The lure of imaginary totality is momentarily frozen before the dialectic of desire hastens on within symbolic chains." Robert Griffin writes of it: "Botting's sentence mixes metaphors in a wild way: a "lure" is "frozen" before a dialectic, but then hastens on "within" chains." I want it to be clear that I don't thing Botting's sentence is any kind of stylistic masterpiece. But at the same time I just don't think it is that bad. It doesn't mix metaphors in the way that Robert Griffith describes: the "lure" is "frozen," but it is the "_dialectic_" which "hastens." The image of a "lure" being "frozen" is a good one: I can imagine a kind of crystalizing moment where what you want, or the nature of your desire for it, becomes apparent. Likewise, there is nothing wrong with the idea/image of "hasten[ing] on within symbolic chains": you can be going somewhere fast but still be unfree. --Marcus Verhaegh Student, Free University Amsterdam __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sun May 25 05:01:24 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id FAA24795 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 05:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id FAA22680 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 05:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id DAA03486 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id DAA03479 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.tau.ac.il (post.tau.ac.il [132.66.16.11]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id DAA24937 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccsg.tau.ac.il (griffin@ccsg.tau.ac.il [132.66.16.2]) by post.tau.ac.il (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA25488; Sun, 25 May 1997 11:34:17 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (griffin@localhost) by ccsg.tau.ac.il (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19111; Sun, 25 May 1997 11:37:51 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: ccsg.tau.ac.il: griffin owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:37:47 +0300 (IDT) From: "Robert J. Griffin" To: Marcus Verhaegh cc: "Robert J. Griffin" , aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Re: Aesthetics: Bad Writing Contest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Robert J. Griffin" Status: O X-Status: Okay, I see where my error was. The "dialectic of desire" is doing the hastening on in symbolic chains, not the lure that had been momentarily frozen before that hastening had occurred. I guess that kind of clears it up. Perhaps a certain ambiguity remains. The syntax implies that the "lure" and the "dialectic of desire" are separate things; so my mistake was to indentify them and read the "lure" as hastening on. But if I follow Marcus Verhaegh's explication, it is possible to understand the dialectic of desire (and not the lure) as momentarily frozen before it hastens on. That is, the dialectic is somehow mobile or rather fluid, but its progress has been momentarily arrested before (as in "in front of") a "lure"; but this occurs before (as in temporal priority) it scurries off to catch the commuter train when it would rather be off to the beach. I had first thought that "symbolic chains" glances at the linguist's "syntagmatic chain," but I see no reason why the deadened disciplinary metaphor should not be activated as well. Hence: the lure is frozen before the dialectic hastens on in chains, but the dialectic should also be understood as frozen before the lure. Yes, that must be it. Robert Griffin Tel Aviv University __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sun Jun 1 01:05:20 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id BAA07531 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 01:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id BAA13570 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 01:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id AAA25449 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id AAA25436 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id AAA08612 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from dante33.u.washington.edu (jtate@dante33.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.17]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA13300; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:04:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (jtate@localhost) by dante33.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA21718; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:04:57 -0700 Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 22:04:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Tate" To: Eiichi Tosaki cc: aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Re: Aesthetics: Theory of rhythm in visual arts In-Reply-To: <3390D187.585@eduserv.its.unimelb.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "J. Tate" Status: O X-Status: Hans and Shulamith Kreitler have an excellent all-inclusive book entitled -Psychology of the Arts- (Durham: Duke University Press, 1972) that has an informative chapter on rhythm more generally, yet includes a discussion of it in relation to visual arts. You might not agree completely with their ideas, but I can assure you that the book's extensive bibliography will be very useful. _________________________________ Joseph Tate Graduate Student Department of English University of Washington, Seattle jtate@u.washington.edu On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Eiichi Tosaki wrote: > Could you recommend me books or articles dealing with rhythm in visual > arts. I am especially specialized in Mondrian and abstract art. > __________________________________________________________ > Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu > To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu > List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu > Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl > __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sun Jun 1 00:17:18 1997 Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id AAA07310 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id AAA02484 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id XAA24821 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id XAA24814 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from moomsa ([206.48.5.65]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with SMTP id XAA13895 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from PC_fjpulido.moomsa.com.mx by moomsa (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA05487; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:12:31 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3390D187.585@eduserv.its.unimelb.edu.au> References: Conversation <3390D187.585@eduserv.its.unimelb.edu.au> with last message <3390D187.585@eduserv.its.unimelb.edu.au> Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: "Eiichi Tosaki" , aesthetics@indiana.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Javier Pulido Biosca" Subject: Re: Aesthetics: Theory of rhythm in visual arts Date: Sat, 31 May 97 22:09:09 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu id XAA24815 Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Javier Pulido Biosca" Status: O X-Status: ---------- > Could you recommend me books or articles dealing with rhythm in visual > arts. I am especially specialized in Mondrian and abstract art. I don't know bibliography abot Mondrian, but I have the Paul Klee's Pädagogisches Skizzenbuch. Maybe you can find an English translation. I have te Spanish translation as "Bases para la Estructuracion del Arte". Sincerely: Javier Pulido Biosca RAICES Project Coatzacoalcos, Ver. > __________________________________________________________ > Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu > To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu > List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu > Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sat May 31 22:30:34 1997 Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id WAA06714 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id WAA25632 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id VAA22919 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sat, 31 May 1997 21:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id VAA22903 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 21:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from muwayb.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (muwayb.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.7]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id VAA18948 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 21:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 128.250.231.149 (its-tserv5asy21.its.unimelb.EDU.AU) by muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (PMDF V5.1-8 #17781) with SMTP id <01IJK3T06LT40002VJ@muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> for aesthetics@indiana.edu; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 12:25:17 +1000 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 11:34:00 +1000 From: Eiichi Tosaki Subject: Aesthetics: Theory of rhythm in visual arts To: aesthetics@indiana.edu Message-id: <3390D187.585@eduserv.its.unimelb.edu.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Eiichi Tosaki Status: O X-Status: Could you recommend me books or articles dealing with rhythm in visual arts. I am especially specialized in Mondrian and abstract art. __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Sun Jun 1 13:05:24 1997 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id NAA11185 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id NAA00992 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id LAA00713 for aesthetics-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 11:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (cayman.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.187]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id LAA00671 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 11:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by cayman.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with SMTP id LAA19919 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 11:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from rfromme.ns2.crl.com (sa2-035.stic.net) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA19980 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 1 Jun 1997 06:54:08 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970601135446.0068c37c@mail.crl.com> X-Sender: rfromme@mail.crl.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 07:54:46 -0600 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu From: Robert Alexander Fromme Subject: Re: Aesthetics: Theory of rhythm in visual arts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu id LAA00678 Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Robert Alexander Fromme Status: RO X-Status: At 10:09 PM 5/31/97 PDT, you wrote: >> Could you recommend me books or articles dealing with rhythm in visual >> arts. I am especially specialized in Mondrian and abstract art. > >I don't know bibliography abot Mondrian, but I have the Paul Klee's Pädagogisches Skizzenbuch. Maybe you can find an English translation. I have te Spanish translation as "Bases para la Estructuracion del Arte". For info on Mondrian, try "De Stijl, 1917-1931" by Carsten-Peter Warncke, Benedikt Taschen, 1990 ISBN3-8228-0547-5 Hope this help. Bob Fromme Robert Fromme or __________________________________________________________ Aesthetics Mailing List: aesthetics@indiana.edu To Unsubscribe: majordomo@indiana.edu List-Owner: Dominic Lopes at dlopes@indiana.edu Aesthetics On-Line Web Site: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl From owner-aesthetics@miagra.ucs.indiana.edu Mon Jun 2 09:38:36 1997 Received: from roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (roatan.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.186]) by lux.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.3www-indiana) with ESMTP id JAA23423 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (miagra.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.181]) by roatan.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id JAA23707 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) id HAA15476 for aesthetics-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:49:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.188]) by miagra.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.2skh) with ESMTP id HAA15469 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailer1.sm.uni-bocconi.it (mailer1.sm.uni-bocconi.it [193.205.23.4]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id HAA10330 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:49:23 -0500 (EST) Organization: Universita' Bocconi - Milano (Italy) Received: from students.uni-bocconi.it (students.uni-bocconi.it [193.205.25.253]) by mailer1.sm.uni-bocconi.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05284 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:00:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from SRVAULAP/SpoolDir by students.uni-bocconi.it (Mercury 1.21); 2 Jun 97 15:00:24 GMT+1 Received: from SpoolDir by SRVAULAP (Mercury 1.30); 2 Jun 97 15:00:22 GMT+1 Received: from cav111.pcstud.uni-bocconi.it by students.uni-bocconi.it (Mercury 1.30); 2 Jun 97 14:59:24 GMT+1 Message-ID: <33933F6A.451C@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 14:47:22 -0700 From: Andrea Cavalieri X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aesthetics@indiana.edu Subject: Aesthetics: Iinformations request X-URL: http://www.indiana.edu/~asanl/net/aesthetics-list.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-aesthetics@indiana.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Andrea Cavalieri Status: RO X-Status: I wuold like to receive informations about the existence of summer courses in aesthetics in europe. 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